(11-19-2015 6:07 PM)NP17 Wrote:  I think the best thing to try would be AO Biome probiotic mist. It contains bacteria that metabolize the ammonia that causes BO but does not otherwise alter the bacterial flora that gives rise to natural pheromones. Then you don't have to use deodorant because there's no BO smell, just natural mones.

I haven't tried it yet, though.

thanks, that's an interesting idea. Do you know where it is available? I looked on the internet by I didn't find a vendor.

I think this is it:

https://shop.motherdirt.com/product/ao-mist-2/

I haven't tried it, but I'm interested in it. A lot more expensive than deodorant and even pheromones, obviously, but interesting stuff. I have noticed without a doubt that people with a strong odor get a lot more play and people are just more interested in them socially.

indeed expensive. Interesting what would happen if the composition of the bacterial flora is indeed changed after a few days of using this product instead of normal deodorant. It would be interesting if the bacterial flora would then be more similar to the flora that develops when no deodorant is used. Accordingly the breakdown of pheromones might be affected, the question would be in what way.

Regarding people who have stronger body oder, I've also had that thought. ( Perhaps they in particular need a good cover and then they are set :-) )
Perhaps if a person does a lot of sports and sweats a lot he increases the total mone output (and possibly also the conversion from one mone to another by the bacteria) and if he would shower right away he would prevent bad smell/remove bad smell but the mones would still remain on his skin (because of their stickiness)?

All of those effects might be increased if a person wears a sleeveless shirt or tanktop or basketball jersey.

In any case there should be mones in our armpits. According to wikipedia there should be none. I also remember reading somewhere that men produce A-1 (though I don't know the location)