Again, most excellent response!

(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RussianWolf Wrote:  What other conclusion am I supposed to come to?

the point, is that you commended someone for being afraid. It was never about valor and chivalry. It was about living in fear and making irrational decisions because of it. It’s not like TLG is a date rape drug and it wouldn’t be honorable to expose a friend’s girlfriend with it. I don’t know anyone who runs to the bathroom to scrub their mones off when a friend happens to show up unexpectedly with their significant other. No telling what might happen. The girl would probably break up with him on the spot.

From that standpoint, everything you said is irrefutable. My standpoint was, that having seen real complications myself, that sometimes it is better to err on the side of caution than to wreak havoc with one's social life.

Honestly, it being a question of fear, or not, had never entered my mind. The way I took the initial statement, it was merely caution. I wouldn't intentionally say or do anything, pheromone related or not, to jeopardize a close friendship, would you? If the source of the caution was from forethought and caution, then it is commendable; if it is borne of fear, as you see it, then it is entirely different.

I did in no way commend somebody for being fearful, I commended somebody for considering the potential fallout of their actions, if they be ill-considered.

(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RussianWolf Wrote:  That’s why I said, stop sabotaging yourself. Because they were afraid; afraid of this and afraid of that. Afraid of what might happen. Afraid of the what if’s. That’s no way to live a life. Being afraid of something bad happening… being afraid of the unknown. Being afraid of the unknown is being afraid of life itself.

Regardless of our differences in translating the causal factors of our initial points of debate; that above statement is GOLDEN. This should be on a plaque on everyone's bathroom mirror; so that each morning when they're preparing for their day, they understand the true meaning of Carpe Diem.

(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RussianWolf Wrote:  I was simply trying to pull him out of his cave, and you’re saying, No, stay in your cave, it’s safe in there.

Again, from my point of view, I wasn't. While you and I do not have idle chit-chat into the wee hours of the morning, we've read enough of each others' posts to know that either of us telling somebody to lurk in their abysmal cave is not in either of our characters.

In our enthusiasm to push the limits of pheromone usage, and to see exactly what empowerment we glean from the use, we have all encountered a 'there be dragons' scenario. I fail to see how having a modicum of foresight equates being afraid. You read the actions and saw fear, whereas I read the same post and saw cautionary trepidation. I'm all for once more unto the breach and unleash the pheromones of war; but honestly, if I felt that me doing so might potentially complicate any of my friendships, I would also think twice about it in that particular instance.

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All of that being said RussianWolf, I admire and appreciate your candor, your excellent communication of your points, and your ability to debate properly. It is a breath of fresh air.

sometimes I play the devil's advocate...

it's all good... appreciate you not taking it personally. Just an observation

Carry on

(03-22-2019 11:49 AM)RussianWolf Wrote:  sometimes I play the devil's advocate...

it's all good... appreciate you not taking it personally. Just an observation

Carry on

I've said before on here and I'll say it again. Open, honest, respectful debate with candor is an absolute necessity here, and everyplace else. Only through such open disagreement can we, as people and as pheromone enthusiasts, grow.

(03-22-2019 12:03 PM)Gladen Wrote:  Open, honest, respectful debate with candor is an absolute necessity here, and everyplace else. Only through such open disagreement can we, as people and as pheromone enthusiasts, grow.

This kind of respectful debate is missing in modern society but its nice to see it here.

Thought I was getting into a rut by wearing only The Love God for a while so after a few phero free days I switched to a few products I used to love. I forgot how different everything else is. Went back to The Love God yesterday (Excalibur scented) and thought, 'There's the affectionate attention I miss!' I had women actively wanting to get all touchy and get close to me with a smile. Ahhhh.... I'm home again.

Echoing that. I have purchased a few dozen other products and have enjoyed lots of them; but TLG just works perfectly for me.

(03-23-2019 10:06 AM)Snoopyace Wrote:  Went back to The Love God yesterday (Excalibur scented) and thought... Ahhhh.... I'm home again.

Now click your heels together three times and say "There's no place like home."

Regarding the CeraVe lotion, is there a specific amount I should use that wouldn't negatively affect the projection of TLG? Or can I just slather a large amount on and just wait for it to sink in?

(03-24-2019 4:54 AM)Vanitas Wrote:  Regarding the CeraVe lotion, is there a specific amount I should use that wouldn't negatively affect the projection of TLG? Or can I just slather a large amount on and just wait for it to sink in?

I’d personally just slather on whatever amount feels appropriate, let it soak in a few minutes, then apply pheromones.

(03-24-2019 11:38 AM)Snoopyace Wrote:  I’d personally just slather on whatever amount feels appropriate, let it soak in a few minutes, then apply pheromones.

And must it be CeraVe or can it be anything and everything under the sun?

I get my TLG in tomorrow, so I will test it out starting in two days.

(03-24-2019 11:42 AM)ObscuredFacade Wrote:  And must it be CeraVe or can it be anything and everything under the sun?

I get my TLG in tomorrow, so I will test it out starting in two days.

For my part, it can be anything that works for you. I use Nivea and Gold Bond brand lotions to moisturize the app points and they both work quite well for me.